Celtic Christian Late 1996

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SOME COMMON INTERESTS
Celtic saint
IRISH WEDDING CEREMONIES
Question
yet another Celtic link?
name research
Celtic Orthodoxy
Re: Celtic Orthodoxy
Irish Masks
Re: Celtcom messages for 10/21/96
Iona
Re: Iona
1997 Anglican Tour/Cradle of Western Christianity/NorthCountry Tour
Celtic Saints
Celtic Orthodox Christianity
New Celtic Christian Page
Celtic Information
Celtic Catholic Church
The Life of Columba
Bible
Re: Bible
Wild goose/ Holy Spirit ?
Re: Wild goose/ Holy Spirit ?
(no subject)
The Celtic Christian List Server
St Andrew
Re: St Andrew
Celtic Christian Pilgrimage
Holy Disorder
Please Announce
St Kilda?
Re: St Kilda?
Re: St Kilda?
St. Ita of Killeedy
Re: St. Ita of Killeedy
Thanks and Merry Christmas

SOME COMMON INTERESTS

I found your home page while searching choirs in the UK, hence
the church music of the Iona Community in which I have an
interest. I visited IONA in the Mid 70's during an epic cruise
of the Western Isles, with two friends in a folkboat (with no
engine). At the time, I regret to say that I wasn't very impressed
with the Island - v. wet and overrun with grockles. Also we snagged
an underwater cable with our anchor - v difficult to clear. Despite
all this I recognise that Iona is a rather special place - I am a Scot
and several of my forebears were Scottish Ministers in the Western
Isles - Mull and Gometra. I hope to take my family, alas all rather
Anglicised, on a highland tour this Summer.
I see from your resume that you worked with the Missions to Seamen
in Japan for a while. I live in Southampton, the Port being served
by the RC Church which I attend, which provides the Port Chaplaincy
and base for the Stella Maris organisation.
I have a cousin and godfather who lives in Kyoto. He completed 12
13 years to become a Jesuit, bailed out and married a Japanese girl
and, despite a difficult time with Japanese family, has had a
happy and successful time, has two brilliant children, both educated
in the UK.
Finally I note that we share an interest in Indian cookery.
Wonderful to paint with such a rich palette.
I have only recently taken up with Internet, so am finding my way around.
I don't know if you are familiar with Tony Hancock's "Radio Ham"
but this document is reminiscent! Hello Tokyo - did you enjot the tray
of bread and butter pudding I sent you.....
Enough. This may be completely boring to you, but it has stimulated
some very pleasant memories and thoughts, so your page has borne
more fruit.
Best wishes
Charles Stuart

Celtic saint

Sir,
I am searching for information on a Saint MacIntyre, or a varied
spelling. Any information you can provide would be most appreciated.
Aribest,
Joe

IRISH WEDDING CEREMONIES

Hi, Stuart.
My name is Mary Margaret Brendan Kirk (nee Byrne). I enjoyed finding
your Home Page while I was searching for information for my fiance
(John Donnelly) and myself about arranging for our upcoming marriage
in june of 1997. Since we are both of Irish decent (for generations),
and feel that we have a soulmate bond, we want our weddng ceremony
to incorporate as much of the Irish tradition as is possible for our
families and dearest friends to participate in and enjoy.
We would be graciously in your debt if you could lead us to any
resources that we might use for music, ceremony, poetry, food, etc.,
Thank you for your time and interest.
My E-mail address is MCJG63D@PRODIGY.COM

Question

I am just curious---is the Celtic rite practiced anywhere at this time?
What church are you connected with.
thanks
Maureen

yet another Celtic link?

Dear Stuart,
I'm glad you spent time on Iona - you'll know "where I'm coming from"! I
lived and worked there for three years with the Iona Community, and now
work in the US as a liturgist, hymnwriter, and workshop leader.
My homepage is under construction at present, but I think my web manager
has put about six or so recent hymns on it, to start the page off.
Perhaps if you have time, you might like to check them out, as I also see
you're interested in material written within a Celtic style. I own the
copywrite to all my material, but am always delighted when people use any
of it on a one-off non-commercial basis anywhere.
If you felt my page and my material falls reasonably under the broad
label 'Celtic Christian', you might like to add it to your page as a
new list of resources? Here's a recent responsorial prayer from my
collection:
Holy be the ground beneath
SUCH A MUD AS ANGELS PLAY IN
Holy be the air around
THE RICH INVISIBILITY OF LIFE
Holy be the bones within
THESE FEW FRAIL STICKS
Holy be flesh and soul
BURSTING TO THE BRIM WITH STORY
Holy be possibility
BURSTING EVERYWHERE
Holy be God
A SMALL WORD FOR SUCH LARGESSE
Holy be Christ
SUCH A ONE AS DIES TO SELF
c.1996 Giles David
HOME is: http://www.duke.edu/~dpvintin/latentangel/gd

Blessings to you and Etsuko in Japan...who would have guessed there might
be a good Celtic webpage there!
Wildness and warmth Giles D.

name research

Hi, I hope you can help me. I belong to the Society of Creative
Anachronism and I'm tring to research a specific name, samhthann. I was
told that it belonged to a 9th century irish saint. Please send me
along the right path. Thank you.
Erica

Celtic Orthodoxy

Hello, My name is Wayne McNamara and I pastor a church in Dayton, Ohio.
We are an independent charismatic church that no longer wants to be
independent. Also, we have grown steadily dissatisfied with the
shallowness of contemporary worship styles we began with. Our desire is
to be firmly rooted in orthodoxy and have that reflected in our liturgy.
I would be very interested in learning more about who you are, your
history, and liturgy. Thanks and hope to hear form you soon.
I am sincerely Yours in His Mercy,
Wayne McNamara
Senior Pastor

Re: Celtic Orthodoxy

Wayne,
Hi! While I am interesting in Celtic Christianity (both
ancient and modern) I am unfortunately not really doing much Celtic
liturgy myself. I'm just a member of a ordinary Anglican-Episcopal
Church in Yokohama Japan.
My main Celtic influences are from the Iona Community in scotland (see
my iona page). I suggest that you contact them and get some of their
materials. I'm not sure if they will be orthodox enough for you. You
could also try and contact Priest Kristopher Dowling, S.S.B.
(KDOWLING@delphi.com) a real Orthodox priest interested in the Celtic
Church and especially interested in liturgy.
However things turn out, please tell me how things work out.
Stuart
If you need

Irish Masks

Do you know if masks are a part of Celtic or Irish history - where can
I get information about this? Thanks.

Re: Celtcom messages for 10/21/96

Dear Stuart,
First I want to thank you for your gift to the Celtic Christian world!!! You
will never know how you have helped people link together and touch each
other.
Second, I want to ask you about your publication of Celtic prayers. I am a
songwriter and have written about 50 songs primarily Celtic in nature (with
many that are specifically Irish). A good number are prayers/hymns that I
use with Liturgy (Eucharist or Office). Are these the type of prayers you
meant?
If so I can forward some to you for you to decide. They are from my heart
and soul, and, as such, may not be of interest to all.
Cait Finnegan
St. Ciaran's in the Poconos

Iona

I looked over your web page with great interest.
I have only recently begun to discover the things of the Island of Iona. I
would be interested to read or see anything else you may have on it.
Additionally if you could forward any other email addresses that deal with
Iona, I would greatly appreciate it very much.
You can contact me at: Caing@aol.com

Re: Iona

If it was the Iona page then I think that you may have the follwing
addresses.
I heard a long time ago that the Iona Community were planning a web
page of their own but I haven't heard that it is up yet.
You can contact the Iona
Community at:
Glasgow
Community House
Pearce Institute
Govan
Glasgow
G51 3UU
Tel: 041-445-4561
Tel: 041-445-4295
email:
ionacomm@mainland.demon.co.uk
Isle of Iona
Iona Abbey
Isle of Iona
Argll PA76 6SN
Tel: 06817-404
Fax: 06817-460
email:
ionacomm@ionamull.demon.co.uk

1997 Anglican Tour/Cradle of Western Christianity/NorthCountry Tour

Hi Stuart, The new northcountry tour lives at this address for the time
being (till it actually takes place in May) http://www.toltbbs.com/~creed1

Would you mind checking it out and consider adding it to your page? And
I will happily return the favor

Celtic Saints

Could you tell me if their exists a St. Colin?? My son's name is Colin,
which I thought was Irish. Does he have a Saint ? Is Colin a derivitive of
any other Irish name which is a Saint 's name? He needs to know for school
Friday. He is in first grade at St. Criox Catholic School.
Thank you
Linda Janilla

Celtic Orthodox Christianity

Synod of Bishops and Clergy of the Holy Orthodox Church, American
Jurisdiction made a few resolutions that are of immediate interest to
those interested in Celtic Christian practices.
The Jurisdiction has resolved that the mission of the jurisdiction is to
bring the fullness of the treasures of Orthodox Faith (the Sacraments,
teachings and Spirituality) to all the world utilizing Orthodox
Liturgical forms (i.e.: Rites/Liturgies with pre-1054 precedents) and
languages appropriate to the needs of all of our communities.
Historical Celtic Christian service books fall into this category.
Further it was resolved that all Bishops of our Synod will bless and
sponsor all Rites of the Jurisdiction recognizing that the fullness of
the Sacraments and the teachings and Spirituality of Christ are conveyed
by all of the historical Orthodox Liturgical forms.
In our jurisdiction no Orthodox Liturgical form is considered less valid
or worthy than any other.
Opinions to the contrary, deny that the various liturgical forms came
into being as fruits of the gifts of the Holy Spirit in that they were
provided to make the Sacraments and Teachings of Christ accessible to
all nations. Such opinions will not be tolerated within the Holy
Orthodox Church, American Jurisdiction.
In this fashion we will be able to accomodate new communicants as well
as continue to fulfill the needs of present communicants, numbering more
than 25,000.
Pax Christi.
Fr. Kristopher, S.S.B.

New Celtic Christian Page

Hi Stuart. You may be interested in publishing this link on your
page:
"The House of Breathings"
http://www.mindspring.com/~mccolman

The site is dedicated to Christian Spiritual Formation, with a
decidedly Celtic flavor. The webmaster is a Scottish-American writer
whose interests include not only Celtic Christianity, but Celtic
paganism, British mysticism, and contemplative prayer.

Celtic Information

Hello, I am a student at a Earlham School of Religion, a Quaker
seminary. I am trying to research early (500-800) Celtic Christian
women. Along the lines of Brigit, but more "common" women.
I found your web site and it has more information of a different kind
than I've seen on others. So I thought I'd see if you might be able to
suggest books or places for me to check.
Any help I'd appreciate. Many Thanks and Blessings. Linda Freimuth
Freimy@Infocom.com

Celtic Catholic Church

Dear Stuart loved reading your pages.
I was wondering if you will take a note of my home page which is about
the irish celtic Church in Ireland.
Please look at http://www.rio.com/~beagle/celtic.html

I would be anxious to get this home page known from the Spiritual point
of view.
The only way people will find this is if they come via your work. If this
is asking too much please let me know
With every good wish.
Fr. Brian
If you cannot take this link you might advise where I can go to get the
maximum exposure.
Fr. B.

The Life of Columba

Stuart,
I'm doing research on the primitive celtic\culdee church in the
British Isles. This book keeps coming up on the bibliographies. Can I
obtain it from you, and how? Thank you!
My e-mail address is redflag@flash.net
Lon Lacey

Bible

Hello! I ran across you on the net(several times) and would like to know
if you could tell me where I can get a Bible in the Gaelic? I am
enjoying the Celtic pages on the net. Looking forward to any new
stuff.
-- Thank you,
*********************************
*Ascender@icx.net * Cynthia H. Anderson
*Net Junkie Extraordinaire *
*********************************

Re: Bible

hi!
I have seen Gaelic Bibles, at least I think I have, while I
was in Scotland, but now that I am in Japan, I am out of touch -
except via the net - of what is available over there. I could be picky
and ask whether you want a Scotch Gaelic or Irish Gaelic bible but I
really don't have any clues.
I you search via Alta vista for "Gealic Bible" you will probably find
one somewhere.
Stuart

Wild goose/ Holy Spirit ?

Dear Stuart,
Hi! I am just writing in the hope that you might be able to help me.
In Scotland recently I have come across references to the wild goose being
an 'ancient celtic symbol of the holy spirit'.
Yet I cannot find any reference to it.Though there are geese in some
illuminated manuscripts.
Columba (columb cille )_ means the dove of the cell, and the dove is
commonly associated with the H.S. as far as I know.
Wild geese in the plural seem to be well established ancient symbol of the
misionaries going out from Ireland,
Hope you can help or direct me,
yours,
Philip
Philip David Noble

Re: Wild goose/ Holy Spirit ?

Yes I have seen this too.. The Iona Community also use the Wild Goose
for their symbol too and they say it is a symbol of the Holy Spirit.
I didn't know this, but it is a beautiful image. Sorry I don't have a
complete answer to your question.
Stuart

(no subject)

Stewart:
I am interested in dialogue with persons who have an interest in Celtic
spirituality and who are family with the writings of Esther de Waal,
etc.
Is there a list group or related community who are interested in this?
Wayne Holst (Rev. Dr.) AINA The University of Calgary,
2500 University Dr. NW, Calgary, Alberta
Canada T2N 1N4
Ph 403-220-4041 Fx 403-282-4609

The Celtic Christian List Server

There is a list (see below), I haven't seen Esther's work mentioned
yet, but I'd like to hear what you have to say.
The Celtic Christian List Server
Host: Fr. Abbot Scott Dennis, OPC
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type "Problem" in the Subject box, then describe the problem as
accurately as possible.

St Andrew

Hello
We've been having a dilema here in the office. No one seems to remember
quite who St Andrew was. We know he is a scottish saint but patron saint
of what? Do you think you could help us on this matter? We would
very much appreciate it.
Thank you
Carol MacLeod

Re: St Andrew

He was the brother of Saint Peter, one of the twelve disciples. The
connections with Scotland are probably legendary.
Stuart

Celtic Christian Pilgrimage

Stuart,
Thanks for your great page and links! I have enjoyed it on a regular
basis!
I'm leading a tour/pilgrimage in May & June 1997. We'll visit Iona,
Whithorn, Clonmacnoise, Glendalough, North Wales and Lindisfarne. If
anyone is interested I can be contacted at mlalle19@tcd.net
or
The Rev. Mary L. Allen
(801)652-3009
Blessings!

Holy Disorder

Thanks for the link on your web page for holy disoder. I am writing to
let you know that the address for this page will have changes as of the
20th december to
(broken link) http://www.geocities.com/Hearland/8825

Please could you update this link if it is not to much trouble
thanks in anticipation
Love in Christ
Owen Davies (Webmaster)

Please Announce

Stuart: Would you consider announcing on your homepage that Dr. Philip
LeMasters of McMurry University will lead a study tour on Christianity
in Scotland May 17-31, 1997. The tour goes to Edinburgh, St. Andrews,
Iona, Stirling, and Glasgow. We will study Celtic Christianity, the
Reformation, and Catholic-Protestant dynamics in Scotland. The price of
$2350 includes airfare from DFW, thirteen nights of bed-and-breakfast
accommodation, private bus transportation in Scotland, and the services
of expert guides and speakers throughout the tour. For more information,
contact Dr. Philip LeMasters, Dept. of Religion, McMurry University,
Abilene,
TX 79697, USA; PLeMasters@mcm.edu
Thanks so much!
Philip
PS: Please add that university credit in Religion is available.

St Kilda?

Is there a Saint Kilda?
If so, do you have any info?
regards
Frank Sawyer

Re: St Kilda?

The Oxford book of saints says that Saint Kilda, that gave his/her
name to the island in the Outer Hebredies never existed. It says that
the name comes from the norse word "Skildir" which means "shields".
The name later transformed into "Hirta" which due to a 16th Century
cartographic error became Saint Kilda.
I recently heard of a Church in the UK that was named after some
obscure saint that found out that their saints name had been corrupted
by a spelling error and had never existed. Maybe we should nominate
St. Kilda as the Patron saint of the misunderstood or bad
spellers..:-)
I'm curious why did you want to know about Kilda?
Stuart
Stuart

Re: St Kilda?

Steve,
Thanks for the information. The search started as a simple query from a
visiting relative about the origin of my suburb name (St Kilda, Melbourne
Australia), and turned into a massive and slightly obsessive undertaking.
I did find a web site for a record company named "St. Kilda" that stated in
their opening blurb that she was the Patron Saint of Pariahs, which is
probably appropriate to this neighbourhood :-)
I guess they made it up.
I love the idea of a Patron saint for bad spellers. I think I've been
searching for one all my life :-)
Thanks again for your help!
Alanna
--
Alanna Sawyer - spook@netspace.net.au
"I am just going outside, and may be some time."

St. Ita of Killeedy

Greetings
I am seeking information on St. Ita of Killeedy.
Can you be of any help.
thanks
Bro.Wm.
New E-Mail addresss Please change to wjp@svn.net
In Service to each other, We Become Free!

Re: St. Ita of Killeedy

Hi, I have added a couple of lines about Ita on my Celtic Saints page
http://www2.gol.com/users/stuart/celtsnt.html#Ita

her life is covered in "The Penguin Dictionary of Saints" and more
fully in:
Wisdom of the Celtic Saints
"Wisdom of the Celtic Saints is the best straightforward description
of Celtic spirituality that has ever been my pleasure to read. The
stories are delightful and Sellners introduction is an elegant little
masterpiece." Andrew Greenly
Author: Edward C. Sellner
Publisher: Ave Maria Press, Notre Dame Indiana 46556
ISBN 0-87793-492-4
This book is available from www.amazon.com search for the author
"Sellner".
Amazon also have the following books on Saints:
The Book of Saints : A Dictionary of Servants of God; Benedictine
Monks of st Augustines Abbey Ramsgate, Ramsgat St. Augustine's Abbey;
Paperback; $22.46
A New Dictionary of Saints; John Cumming, Donald Attwater; Paperback;
$14.95
The Oxford Dictionary of Saints (Oxford Paperback Reference); David
Hugh Farmer; Paperback; $14.35; Descriptive information available.
The Penguin Dictionary of Saints; Donald Attwater; Paperback; $11.65
The Penguin Dictionary of Saints (Penguin Reference Books); Catherine
Rachel John, Donald Attwater; Paperback; $12.55
Pocket Dictionary of Saints; John J. DeLaney; Paperback; $8.95
A Biographical Dictionary of the Saints : With a General Introduction
on Hagiology; F. G. Holweck; Hardcover; $82.00 (Special Order)
Stuart

Thanks and Merry Christmas

Dear Stuart: You will not remember me until I explain that I wrote to you
over a year ago asking about the Twelve Choirs and the Ancient Chants that
the Celtic Christians used. You replied that you didn't know but you'd put
my question on the web site and you did--its still there. Thank you for
doing that as it really paid off. About two months ago, I received an e-mail
for a guy in Australia that had seen my question on your site. He wrote that
he had done lots of research on this period of history and had written three
books on this era. Also, that he is a harper and comes from a long line of
harpers. Quite an interesting person. His name is Caiseal Mor and his
E-Mail is:
cais@s054.aone.net.au I have not read any of his books as that are
not published in the USA but he is sending me one and I can't wait.
With kindest regards to you and your wife and MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A
GOOD NEW YEAR FOR US ALL! Wm. E. Martin drmar10@mindspring.com